We talked with Michael Previdsa, a two-time Canadian national champion and holder of eight Canadian records. Below, we included our entire interview as a video and as a written transcript.
Major highlights include looking at Previdsa’s lessons from over a decade of powerlifting. He discusses his plans for upcoming competitions and a return to competitive bodybuilding. Previdsa also highlights the intersection between training as a powerlifter and bodybuilder.
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Full Interview Transcript
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So, my name, as you know, is Michael Previdsa. I am both a competitive bodybuilder and powerlifter, so as an athlete. And from a career perspective, I am a full-time fitness coach. I coach a broad range of Strength athletes, physique athletes, hobbyists, etc. And I've been doing that for a little over nine years now.
I've been competing in bodybuilding and powerlifting for over a decade. I think we're about to hit the 13-year mark there. By education, I'm a professional engineer. Though we're not operating in that regard daily, but I certainly use those skills, tools, etc., in my coaching practice.
And yeah, today we're going to chat a little about me as an athlete, maybe some coaching and mentorship stuff, and take it from there.
PowerliftingTechnique.com (PLT): You're a two-time Canadian National Champion powerlifter, an American Gold Medalist, a World Championship Bronze Medalist, and a holder of eight Canadian records. What started your career in bodybuilding and powerlifting?
Yeah, it was a very natural experience, honestly. I was always athletic but not a particularly big guy. For context, I graduated high school, so whatever that is, 17 or 18 years old, at my current height, 5'11, 125 pounds—soaking wet, probably with a couple of dumbbells strapped to my feet. And, at present, for, you know, those curious, I am about 225 pounds.
So, that's a hundred pounds of lean tissue, which did not find its way onto my frame overnight. That was, you know, almost 15 years in the game now, right? Growing up, I was a hockey and a football player, both at a competitive level. They were my whole, those sports were my life growing up.
And I mean growing up through to the end of high school, like I was on the ice.
Every day, from being able to walk until graduating high school. And then, as many, you know, as that process reaches its natural conclusion, as is the case for many young adult or teenage athletes, you look for the next outlet. At that point, I was at university studying engineering.
I was taking stock of how to fulfill myself outside education in the hobby space. And I realized that I enjoyed training for sport as much as the sport itself when I was growing up. And so as I was looking for a new competitive outlet, I was always that guy who was enthralled by the physiques of comic book characters and, you know, the bodybuilding magazines. You know, back in my day, it was the Jay Cutlers, the Rodney Colemans, those kinds of guys.
In that way, I found bodybuilding. It was a pretty natural transition point because I never paused my training in the gym even when the sports itself that I was training for, you know, elapsed. And so I competed in bodybuilding for two years, four shows in total, and at that point, I certainly loved it. I knew that bodybuilding would be a part of my life forever.
But I was, you know, I realized I needed an extended off-season to grow and improve my physique because putting on muscle does not happen overnight. And I wanted something during that off-season that was a little more objective, a little more quantifiable in terms of the measurement of progress and the way you're graded in terms of competition.
And that's how I naturally found my way to powerlifting, right? I was already doing… Many of the big three compound discipline movements are squat, bench, deadlift, and deadlift. I decided to register for a local competition except powerlifting. Then, I took on a life of its own because of a natural inclination, I guess, and a talent perspective.
But also just a year of service because I was already five years deep and training consistently. I took to the sport of powerlifting very quickly. And so, you know, it was local competition. I won second place at Provincials and then won my first-ever national competition. So, it was very quick, and then, basically, I never looked back.
For the next eight years, I competed, and this was from maybe 2013 to 2020, 2021. I competed solely in powerlifting, predominantly at national and international levels. For five years, six years, for Team Canada, um, representing Team Canada.
Along that way, I was lucky enough to secure two national championships, eight Canadian records, a bronze medal in the deadlift at the world championships in the IPF, and a gold medal overall at North Americans.
So, a pretty good, you know, laundry list of goals. And, after that point, the pandemic kind of, you know, Was there and took hold, and, for me, almost all of my competitions at that point were travel competitions. They require, you know, whether I'm competing in Finland, Costa Rica, or the States, wherever, whatever it is, those all got completely placed on the back burner, right?
They got canceled. And for me, the opportunity cost, of any type of training is a cost-benefit or a trade-off. Putting, you know, 500-plus pounds on your back or 600-plus pounds in your hands multiple days a week extracts a heavy toll. And that was a tricky thing to want to do with, you know, all competitions completely shelved for the foreseeable future.
There's a huge amount of risk associated with that. At my level of advancement, I recognize the kind of effort it took just to. Maintain the strength that I had, let alone try to, you know, chip it, just a few kilos here or there. And so that sort of naturally swung that pendulum back towards picking up kind of where I left off in the bodybuilding space, where I hadn't been at that point in eight or nine years, and it came out to ten years to the day between times that I stepped on stage, which is very cool.
And so that's where I kind of spent a year through 2022. Just focus on, you know, filling in the gaps in my physique that are sometimes not spoken for in a powerlifting-centric program, and then spent all of this year preparing and subsequently competing back in the bodybuilding space. I'm pretty confident I've registered for the competition in 2024 already.
And so powerlifting isn't going anywhere. Bodybuilding certainly is now going to be moving forward. I found that passion for it again. I've put on 10 pounds, 10 years worth of tissue that I want to, you know, make good upon.
And so for the next, I don't know, at least half a decade, bodybuilding will certainly be my labor of love.
PLT: What's the biggest challenge for a competitor of your level?
In my experience, when I speak to a competitor of my level, I speak less about the absolute level that I compete at, which would be national-level competitors, because much of that has to do with genetic predeterminants, etc. And I work with clients at a similar level of advancement as me regarding their training age and how many years of service they've put into a discrete task.
And I think more about, you know, somebody who's, you know, very close to maxing out their genetic potential. And that's, take, you know, my subsequent answer with that frame in mind. And I think that the biggest thing, the biggest challenge, is a precise application of effort that is built upon the back of a very nuanced education because the trouble in the fitness space, as we know, is that there can be a very low barrier to entry, and an overabundance of information, that all in the age of social media gets a similar pedestal.
And when I grew up in this scene, that didn't exist, right? There wasn't this, you know, readily available funnel, if you were, of what I like to think of myself as very, you know, educated and experienced coaches on hand that you can reach out to, to learn from, and get mentorship from.
There wasn't, you know, YouTube. I'm just starting to dabble as an educator in that space myself, YouTube specifically, and putting the thoughts that I had both in my head, the thoughts I deliver to my clients on a week-to-week basis, in a public forum, at least in piecemeal, that is something that's a huge part of 2024 for me.
I have a pipeline of about 50 videos, 6 of them already recorded, so there's much to come. Still, like I said, that information wasn't available then. I was, you know, scouring the bodybuilding.com forums, trying to, you know, sift through 99 percent garbage to find the one nugget of wisdom.
And the way that I kind of got myself to where I am now is by brute force. I had to make every mistake in the book that resulted in wasted time, lost progress, and more significant injuries than I care to mention.
In my experience, people get to this level. The thing that breaks them and makes them lifetime intermediate athletes and not advanced trainees who compete at the highest level is, you know, spinning their wheels or regressions because of improper application of effort. Because, like, you can get far with or without decent genetics from hard work and consistency over a long time, right?
Like 80/20, you can get 80 percent of the way there. But at the level I compete at, those variables are the price of admission. Like barely. They're just a couple of components of the price of admission, right? And so if you're not dotting your i's and crossing your t's every day, you may not progress at this level.
You can do almost everything right and Barely tread water. As I discussed before, what prompted me from being in powerlifting and shifting back to bodybuilding was knowing what sort of effort it took under a barbell every week, even just to have a shot at progressing to loads my max lifts, right?
Just to have a chance at it. It's not that like, and after I've dotted those I's and crossed those T's, the stars had to align a little bit just to see that come to fruition. Now, you know, what those, you know, nuanced details are, are going to be different, whether, which phase of a competitive season we're talking about, off-season versus a contest prep or a meet prep, etc.
But it's the simple variable, simple, not easy, of managing fatigue and stress. Both acute fatigue and stress and systemic chronic long-term fatigue and stress, because as I kind of described to my clients, like living to lift another day and sometimes, you know, taking a little bit less, being a little, you know, less than satisfied, because a lot of the people at this level are very ambitious athletes with a drive, like I said, those sorts of de dedication, those are the price of admission.
It's like if you were the valedictorian of your high school, and then you go and get into a prestigious university. Well, you showed up on day one, and there were 400 of you in the lecture hall, right? Because everybody is like you.
And when you get to that level, you realize that it's just, you come to a different pond, and a lot of those people, everybody is, you know, doing all of the right things day in and day out.
And so sometimes it's learning, in my experience, when to take your foot off the gas so that you can live to live to lift another day. And, you know, having more of a stoic view of the competitive life cycle as a whole and not trying to maximize every day and squeeze the blood out of every day's stone, that's probably one of the bigger challenges for competitors at the highest level.
PLT: How much of a role does nutrition play in fatigue?
Oh, a lot. Now, if we're talking about, you know, competitors at peak performance, luckily, in 2024, those competitors, at least in a powerlifting context, are starting to come around to the importance of nutrition, right? Bodybuilders have always gotten this right because you're not getting into competition shape without controlling every bite of food in your mouth.
But powerlifting, it's a weight-constricted sport, so as long as those athletes were staying within, you know, striking distance of their weight class, they felt that they were dotting the, like, checking the boxes, right? For lack of a better term. And that's not the case because, obviously, not all nutritional approaches are created equal.
And so, you know, a huge amount of fatigue, well, our work capacity as a whole, in the context of a gym, in a training day, in a training week, It's going to be heavily determined by the quality of our recovery, right?
Managing sleep and nutrition is, you know, the pinnacles of those pyramids. Supplementation far and away, further down the laundry list.
But, you know, fatigue, we are all human. And so, you know, whatever that saying is, like… Fatigue makes cowards of us all, right? That is real. And, you are going, we are all going to reach in our training, a, a multiple stages where kind of like a pitcher for, you know, sometimes that simple, big, you know, major sports analogies tend to resonate well with people.
A pitcher goes out there in the first inning if you think about baseball. And he's just striking everybody out. But then he gets through that second or third time through the rotation of batters, and now they've seen him pitch a couple of times. And they start hitting him up.
He has to adjust.
Well, you'll encounter many of those opportunities or necessities to make auto regulations or course corrections throughout your athletic career. And many of the ones start with, you know, they get very far on just hard work alone. The first, in my experience working with clients for over nine years, especially strength-centric clients, is they're not managing their nutrition holistically regarding calorie balance, macronutrient distribution, minerals, and hydration.
Hydration is a huge one for strength athletes because it has the most significant acute effect on their performance on a day-to-day basis. That's often the first variable that is identified when… Progress stalls as being low-hanging fruit. And a lot of people, because of, you know, a lack of nutrition, it's a tough one because it's that variable which puts us all like I said, I said I think already once, we're all very human.
And so, you know, nutrition is that variable that… That will cause us to, like, everybody, no matter how disciplined we are, 8 pm rolls around, and that discipline starts to waver. Right? Even me. Even the most, like, let me tell you, I'm three weeks post-show, right?
And coming off of six plus months of calorie restriction, there were more than a few moments of weakness after 8 p.m. In the last couple of weeks, I've reeled in and returned to the baseline, but even people like me, if we are prone to, after 15 years in this game.
With all of the associated trials and tribulations, if we're prone to moments of weakness, you can imagine someone who hasn't been through it and doesn't have that foundational knowledge or education.
In my experience, some of the layers of education mentorship that I've given to my clients that stick with them for life are on the nutrition side because teaching somebody, whether they walk into a, you know, a kitchen or they walk into a restaurant and they put a plate in front of them, to just subconsciously be able to know within a 5 or less percent margin of error, exactly what's in front of them and exactly what they're putting in their body, with no scale, little to no thinking, 15 to 30 seconds of effort, those types of skills serve people for life.
In my experience, it is one of the most important variables in the game. And I think it's one of the big contributory factors to closing that loop. That led to me being as successful as I was in the powerlifting space as quickly as I was.
Because I already had that foundational nutritional knowledge and an ability to maintain very lean body composition, I maximized the amount of muscle I had on my frame for my weight class from my background in bodybuilding in the years before me competing as a powerlifter.
PLT: You're pushing for recognition from the International Federation of Bodybuilding and Fitness. How do you earn that IFBB Pro Card?
So that is a tough thing to get. And, in Canada, in every country, it's a little bit different. IFBB is a global federation, but each country has its member federation. So Canada is universally regarded as one of, if not the hardest places in the world to get your IFBB ProCard. And it's simply a function of.
The volume of competitions for which qualification exists. So, the way that the competitive landscape works, and I'll kind of point out milestones of where I stand in that process. First, you compete at a regional show and have to place in the top three in your class to qualify for—either nationals or another pro qualifier event.
I have now checked that box. In my season that just elapsed, I won the overall, so I won my class, and then I won the overall of all Classic Physique competitors at that show, granting me a 12-month qualification to all pro qualifiers in Canada. And that, like I said, that qualification only lasts for 12 months.
Otherwise, it has to be renewed. So, Canada has only three pro-qualifier events in each calendar year. There is the Toronto Pro, the Vancouver Pro, and the National Canadian Nationals. And the big difference in Canada versus other competitions is that there's a pro qualifier event every weekend in the States, so that's a huge difference.
You know, 50 plus versus 3 in the country, so it's not scaled to population, that's for certain. And then in Canada, you not only have to win your class, you also have to win the overall at a pro qualifier. So you have to be the best person. In the show, they only give out one pro card per category.
At each pro qualifier event. And so, next year, I'll be competing at the 2024 Canadian Nationals, attempting to make some strides towards that end.
PLT: What do you expect from the 2024 Canadian Nationals?
Another good question. So, you know, I look at my, this past year's competition that just elapsed as my, what I call, kind of, rookie season back in the sport, right? Because I've been 10 years to the day, and I was going up even this past year against guys who have been perennial competitors for five to ten years.
That's been The primary, if not the sole, thing they do from an athletic perspective. So, my expectations for the season that just elapsed were just to get on the board. But, you know, basically put my foot out there, make a statement, qualify for nationals.
My expectations as an ambitious competitor, if not noted by, you know, the history of powerlifting that we chatted about earlier, are that I don't like to go just to show up.
And to the point we were talking about kind of off camera, I was like, You want to win, but you want to win against the best possible contingent of competitors. I don't want to win, you know, a pro card on the smallest possible platform or stage competing against, you know, the smallest list of competitors that I could get my hands on.
I want that state to be stacked with the best guys in the country, and then I want to somehow just eke my way to the top of that. So next year, I don't just want to show up at Canadian Nationals. The goal is to come to the top three in my class. In addition to being in the top three, I need to come away with data because I'm a data-driven coach, right?
And I also think this is a very rare thing. I'm one of the few people who self-coach myself to the stage. So, even coaches in the bodybuilding space tend to have coaches. And I have had coaches and mentors from whom I've learned. I, of course, still crowdsource information from other coaches in the industry that are colleagues of mine who I trust.
Still, this past year and forecast for next year, I plan to self-coach myself to Canadian nationals and hopefully beyond. So, in addition to coming in the top three, another output is that I want clear and direct comparison and feedback on what gaps I need to fill to become an undeniable pro-level caliber athlete, right?
I want to be able to see myself directly on stage against the guy who does turn pro, if not myself, and I want to say if I do x, y, and z, And I reverse engineer that to actionable steps and timelines to achieve it, as any good coach would.
I want to know that by, you know, in relatively this time frame, I can fill in the gaps to be undeniable.
PLT: What do you expect from the Olympia Amateur event?
Yeah, so the Olympia Amateur is a prestigious event. The Mr. Olympia contest for anyone even adjacent to fitness, more or less at this point, knows what it is, right? It is the pinnacle. It is the Olympics of bodybuilding.
That is where the best of the best IFBB pros only compete. They have to, you know, very specifically win pro shows to qualify for that event.
And that's where they gather together once a year and figure out who is the best in the world, and whoever wins the Mr. Olympia title is the best. And then there's the whole fitness expo that goes along with it.
As a part of the growth of this sport over the last number of decades, that expo has now included an amateur contest, a pro qualifier event for the IFBB, where the best amateurs in the world congregate to compete.
This differs from what I just described with Canadian Nationals, where you must be the best overall in your category to win. It's the top three overall in each category to get pro cards. So, just at that show alone awards more pro cards at that one show than all of Canada in the year. So, that puts into perspective what I was alluding to earlier.
And so, it stands to reason that someone like myself, should I qualify as a Canadian Nationalist this year, it is next week, already in peak condition, would love to go there, experience the expo, and put myself against not only the best people in Canada but myself against the best people across the world, right? The United States is very much the global mecca of bodybuilding.
My goal for that one is a little more nebulous because of the volume of competing competitors. If memory serves, we're talking that the better part of a thousand amateur competitors compete in that.
In that event, I would love a top-five finish in my class. That's kind of, you know, I want to be, I don't come just to show up, I want to be knocking on the door, even on my sophomore year, of, of bodybuilding, I want to be knocking on the door of a card, and I think that I have the chops to do that, and I guess we'll find out in 10, 11 short months.
PLT: While the audience at PowerliftingTechnique.com is a broad group, we'd love to hear your advice for powerlifters.
No, that's very good. I think you kind of nailed it in the question, and that is, you know. In my experience, both my success in powerlifting and now being colleagues with some of the better powerlifters in the world as well, and knowing their journey from a personal perspective, mine and their success in powerlifting is in huge part due to the athletic base that we have built.
Before joining the sport, like the five-plus years of direct experience of resistance training in a broader context, not powerlifting specific, and my athletic background, I recognized that not everyone might come in with that time. Like the athletics I did before powerlifting, that time may have elapsed for many people.
But what never elapses is the ability to not hyper-fixate on the big three movements straight out of the gate. So. I mean the disciplines of the squat, bench press, and deadlift, both in terms of the frequency you do them, the specificity or priority you place upon them, both on how competition specific they are, how much they, you know, how big of a priority they occupy within your program as a whole.
All powerlifters, novice, intermediate, and advanced alike, should be doing more hypertrophy work than they think they need. You know, the cross-sectional area of a muscle is a huge determinant of its strength.
Not only because you have both the size of the tissue and the neuromuscular efficiency, but also because of the ability of that tissue to have a strong contractile velocity, right?
And so, for me, A huge rate limiter that I see among, you know, novice or new powerlifters, both hobbyists and competitors alike, is a hyper fixation on the big three movements. That doesn't mean you don't do them. It just means you should do much more than just them in the context of a holistic program.
And then the second thing I guess I'll bring up, and I kind of alluded to this in an earlier question, is that injuries are the primary thing in my experience that constrains people from being lifetime intermediates at best. Suppose you regularly spend weeks to months sparingly training or out of the gym because of limitations of your ability to train productively. In that case, you are just shortchanging your growth tenfold.
And so I say that one rep won't make you, but it could break you. So, really know when to hit the gas, but also be very objective with yourself about when to hit the brakes, and like I said before, live to lift another day.
PLT: So, we talked about your pro-level advice for powerlifters. What about advice for bodybuilders?
Yeah, no, that's a good deviation because I look at how we operate in the gym, which overlaps hugely. The way we operate in the kitchen overlaps and should overlap even more. There are some clear differences in how bodybuilders and powerlifters, you know, should conduct themselves specifically in the context of, you know, the career life cycle, the athletic life cycle as a whole.
Because bodybuilding is more of an older man's game, male and female, powerlifting is certainly something that requires a Base of musculature. I spent five minutes discussing the importance of building athletic and strength bases. But building muscle happens a hell of a lot slower than building strength.
It's like watching paint dry, only a thousand times slower than watching paint dry, right? And that's why I say it's like an older man's game. It's because it's not… It's not years. It takes decades to realize the full possibility of the tissue that a person could accrue on their frame. Irrespective of using performance enhancements like that, they just raise the ceiling. To get to any ceiling takes decades.
A quote I like is that it summarizes the bodybuilding recommendations. Nicely or succinctly, if you can wait 90 days for a result, you can win. If you can wait a year, you can win big. If you can wait a decade, you can be the best. And this applies to more than just bodybuilding.
That applies to life. It applies to any skill-based anything in life. And I subscribe to that very heavily. If you're a new and aspiring bodybuilder, whether you hope to compete or not, there are even more aspiring people who want to build a physique than there are across a broad range of hobbyist strength athletes, right? Or people like me who want both, right?
Now, don't worry about the perfect program, the perfect split, the perfect volume requirements, etc. Everyone majors the minor and misses the forest for the trees. That's not to say that those variables aren't important.
As a healthy nerd, I've spent thousands of hours, without exaggeration, educating myself and mentoring others on those exact topics.
What many people miss when it comes to bodybuilding is you can't… You know, science is your way to progress. It is an experientially driven sport, and your results and mileage will vary like they are highly individual. Bodybuilding is way more genetically predetermined than people give credit.
So, both in terms of your ceiling, but sorry, we can't decide our parents. So, that variable has already elapsed. It's out the window. What you can decide is coming up with an optimal strategy for you. And what's best for you might not be the same as what's best for others.
And so, you know, any information online you should take from trusted sources, like PowerliftingTechnique.com, and even then, with healthy skepticism in so much as how it relates to you specifically, both where you are in your trading career, how you respond as an individual, etc. Right? More than one road leads to Rome when it comes to building muscle, but you must find the highway specific to your needs.
And, because nobody wants to take the meandering route to building muscle. We all want to get there as quickly as we can, right? The biggest thing I could say is with bodybuilding, start with a perfect rep.
Many people worry about how many sets, how much volume, and which exercises. Standardize the base metric of volume, which is one rep.
Perfect that rep.
In terms of it's total range of motion, it's tempo. It's a pause. It's resistance profile. How does it fit your specific morphology and tissues?
Nail a perfect rep and watch those results compound across an 8-rep set, 3 4 sets, 5 6 exercises, and a year of training, right?
Because if you shortchange a rep, and you're only getting 70 cents on the dollar of each total rep, that 30 percent loss is also compounding across 8 reps, 3 sets, 5 exercises, 5 training sessions a week, a year of training, right? So, starting and nailing that base metric of volume is very important.
And, for those specifically aspiring to compete one day, the learning curve related to competition is very steep. There are a lot of potential dangers involved with getting exotically lean, and there's a lot of snake oil out there. I do not believe any first-time competitor should be attempting to go it alone without the experience of A coach or mentor with a track record both personally and with clients.
They must felt that at some level of competitiveness. They don't need to be Mr. Olympia. But in my experience, they must have shown the ability to go there—to take their body to their exotic endpoint of physique development.
And like I said, really to mitigate those risks and do it safely because, in powerlifting, everyone understands the acute risk. You bail a squat, you can tear something, you can seriously hurt yourself.
I don't think that comes across as obvious with bodybuilding. And, I would say the risks in the physique sports are significantly greater. They're just a slower burn. So, the aspiring competitor's learning curve is steep, and I strongly recommend taking guidance.
PLT: Where can we follow your progress this year and next? Can we reach out to you for training?
Absolutely. So. There are a few ways you can find me. Email is a great one. That would be Mike at masterathletic.com. That's the coaching team I am a part of. As well as on Instagram, my first and last names are Michael Previdsa. You can find the last name if it struggles to come off the page in the show notes, but I'm always open to a conversation.
I'm happy to set up a, you know, a free quick Zoom call or consult to talk about your goals. I work with, you know, a really broad range of athletes, both competitors and just dedicated hobbyists, about a 50-50 cross-section of men and women over the years. I've worked with athletes everything from 15 to about 60. About a 50 -50 spread between powerlifters and bodybuilders.
And that's something that hybrid athletes do. So, dual athletes compete in both or have serious interests in both and are trying to maximize their progress in both concurrently. And I think that is, you know, something I am making a great effort to maintain, which is to stay active in both spaces.
And that's actually why I'm pushing a return to the bodybuilding spaces. I like the idea of having. As a coach, you are a product of your product, right? You have to show that you're able to, you know, walk the walk, talk the talk. And I'd like to think that my CV on the powerlifting side of the equation speaks for itself for life.
You know, John Mayer had a great quote that I kind of referenced here a lot of the time, which is like, your early body of work should be like your greatest hits. It shows everybody the extent or totality of what you can do. And then, after you kind of achieve that, you want to drive slow enough that you can look out the window.
And that's what I'm trying to do now in that powerlifting space, providing that mentorship, etc. And so, you know, for those I work with, I don't only work with high-level competitors, and also, there's going to be a lot of great content coming out on YouTube. You can find me under the same name, Michael Previdsa, over 2024.
So, it will be both strength and hypertrophy, uh, centric, basically right down the middle, because as both an athlete and coach, that's exactly where I sit, is threading that needle right down the middle between the strength and hypertrophy side of the equation.